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Sure would be nice to do this in the GMC

GMC HYDRONIC HEAT BLOGS
http://www.tracker.net/blog/
http://mrerf.blogspot.com/

PROPANE SYSTEMS

ALDE SYSTEM - PROPANE/ELECTRIC
TECHNIQUE

ALDE 3000 BOILER
3000
 
HARDWARE
http://www.alde.se/

Tom Phipps
On your changing to hot water heat, as in house baseboard type.  The P.O. (once removed) (Bill Harvey, of Denver, CO) converted the coach that I now own to this form of hot water heat.

If you would like, I will take photos and send them to you for you digital enjoyment.

He used the original hot water heater that came in the GMC Transmode, or AVION.  The heater uses either the engine hot water or electric power for heating the circulating water.  The circulating water is isolated from the engine hot water.  The water tank acts as a heat transfer.  He used black iron pipe and standard house type finned baseboard heat strips and ran them around the entire inside of the passenger area of the GMC.  He installed a 12 volt water pump to circulate the heated water thru the baseboard heaters.

It does work.  Driving across Kansas in July with this unknown heating system was very warm.  Finally found an off switch.  I have installed a heater cut-off valve in the lines from the engine block to the rear heater.  Not a lot of need for this form of heater here, in Lower Alabama. Tom Phipps"Aunite Que"

Heinz's hydronic Project
http://208.181.117.115:3455/hydronic/Home

DIESEL SYSTEMS

VEHICLESYS DIESEL RV SYSTEMS
http://www.vehiclesys.com/aqua_hot.html

ESPAR HEATER SYSTEMS
http://www.tknw.com/Products/Espar/Hydronic4.asp
http://www.espar.com/htm/Specs/water/D4Wspec.htm

Marc Hogenboom's  Diesel Primus system for the GMC ( look at all of Mark's wonderful GMC mods)
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=11442&size=medium
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=11443&size=medium
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=11444&size=medium
 


SOURCES FOR POSSIBLE PARTS

Look at Alde form Sweden, they now make a system simular to the Primus wich is no longer available: http://www.alde.se/  These provide abour 20000 BTU's and are propane fired. There is also Espar for Diesel als Gasoline fired heaters: http://www.espar.com/htm/Specs/water/wterheat.htm.

In my experience you do not need a huge amount of BTU's when using a hydronic system, because the heater can be burning moost of the time without being a nusance like air heating. No noise, no wind.

The tank is small because the whole system is waterfilled and circulating. The tank is only for expantion. You could compare it to a On demand hot water system. That is why a water heater is not a good alternative. No need to reinvent the wheel, that has already been done a few hundred times.
I'm sure there are other manufacturers, but I know  these two will give you a good product. If you need help, just ask  .Marc


 Cheap Heater register by Red Dot Corp. in Washington found by Eric Gibbons
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4559507296&category=50466

Detailed Specifications
http://www.rdac.com/Pages/product_pages/units_pages/270_unit.html

I received the 24VDC Red Dot Corp. Auxiliary Heater yesterday. They wouldn’t take my low-ball offers, so I paid the $39.99 asking price plus $9.21 shipping. I am glad I ordered it and will get another for the rear, or for future propane/hydronic heating.

No documentation is provided with the product. Construction is of high quality, suitable for use in a GMC Motorhome. The casing is a heavy plastic. The blower is the dual squirrel cage type, and the core is copper with aluminum fins. There are three wires terminating in an automotive type plug,, which I quickly decided to cut off and replaced with crimp-on bullet connectors. The three wires provide two blower speeds. All my tests were conducted on the high speed.

Red dot’s spec for current is 7.7A @ 13.6VDC. That spec is for the 12V unit. While this is a 24V unit, I gambled that it would provide adequate airflow running off the unregulated alternator output that the dash air blower runs off of when on high. I haven’t measured this voltage, but expect to see 16-18VDC when I do.  The blower moves a lot of air at 24V voltage (2.2A) and is pretty noisy. On 12VDC it draws the expected 1A and still moves air. It ought to move plenty of air at 16V. I won’t install this right away, but look forward to the additional winter heat it will provide while on the road.

Overall, this is a quality unit available at a great price. All the others I’ve been able to find are at least $90. If you’re thinking of adding an auxiliary heater, I’d recommend getting one of these while their available. I’ll post results and pictures when I get around to the project.

Red Dot has re-listed the unit. Here’s the link.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4561052064&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1
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WATER HEATERS- big Jim
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